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  • Светлана Золк.
    Ветеран

    • 15 August 2002
    • 1413

    #16
    Deicide, how sad !
    (I mean your reply).
    "Буду ходить свободно; ибо я взыскал повелений твоих.
    Повелениями Твоими я вразумлён; потому ненавижу всякий путь лжи"
    Псалом 118.

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    • Dron
      Участник

      • 11 October 2002
      • 326

      #17
      Ответ участнику Deicide
      Цитата от участника Deicide:
      Светочка... nothing is eternal, even you faith that ou are relying on so heavily. One day you will understand that god - is only something you want to believe in.
      I am sure that if it wouldn't be jesus, it'd be mohhamed ot buddah. You are just one of those people who decided to believe in something, just because you are so terrified of your own shadow and what is awaiting beyond life....
      Sorry for such a strong vocabulary (Тенечка), but i need to be honest.



      Извиняюсь что на русском - но это ваше мнение Deicide! Вы думаете что люди сами придумали что надо верить во что то, но это не так!! Бог есть, и Он - Истина, и однажды вы это узнаете - если сейчас думаете что люди сами выдумывают религию.
      For we walk by faith, not by sight.
      2 Corinthians 5:7

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      • Dron
        Участник

        • 11 October 2002
        • 326

        #18
        А вообще, если сказать в чем цель людского сущуствования, то в Боге. Я думаю пока человек не станет христианином он этого не поймет
        For we walk by faith, not by sight.
        2 Corinthians 5:7

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        • Светлана Золк.
          Ветеран

          • 15 August 2002
          • 1413

          #19
          Words of song :

          "Nothing and no one can satisfy me, but YOU anymore, Jesus, I love You, my only desire, o, Lord, I love You".

          May be this very premitive, but I believe that Jesus Christ ONE why can satisfy man.

          Sorry my mistaken in text.
          "Буду ходить свободно; ибо я взыскал повелений твоих.
          Повелениями Твоими я вразумлён; потому ненавижу всякий путь лжи"
          Псалом 118.

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          • Ольгерт
            Ветеран

            • 24 September 2000
            • 18313

            #20
            Those who come to Me will not thirst for ever
            "И открыть всем, какое богатство славы в тайне сей для язычников, которая есть Христос в вас, упование славы".

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            • Светлана Золк.
              Ветеран

              • 15 August 2002
              • 1413

              #21
              Olgert !
              AMEN
              "Буду ходить свободно; ибо я взыскал повелений твоих.
              Повелениями Твоими я вразумлён; потому ненавижу всякий путь лжи"
              Псалом 118.

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              • Monah
                Участник

                • 27 February 2002
                • 16

                #22
                The purpose of man's existence.

                It is very interesting to hear such a confident person. It seams that you understood the mysteries of life. To be more specific you think that you attained the all knowledge. Or you just an ignorant uneducated person who uses abusive and circumstantial evidences for argumentation. You say that: One day you will understand that god - is only something you want to believe in. How do you know that this time and day will come!? Do you have some convincing proofs, or it just a meter of your personal opinion? You also say: You are just one of those people who decided to believe in something, just because you are so terrified of your own shadow and what is awaiting (you) beyond life.... isnt it ironical that when I read your personal profile, I found out that you also chose to believe in Сатанизм, Черная Магия, Оккультизм, Депрессионизм, Скептическая философия!? Therefore, using your un-logical method of argumentation it is possible to assume, that you chose to believe whatever you believe, out of being afraid of your own shadow and what is awaiting you after earthly life. You think you know what is waiting for you after this life!? Ask yourself how do you know it? What is the basis of your belief? Ahh, wait a minute, you read about it in the literature related to your system of belief. But where is the proof that it is the truth, or you just choose to believe? Did you come to this point of your life through thorough analysis and extensive experimentations? I dont think so. Can you proof your position beyond the reasonable doubt? You may ask what about you, can you? First of all it is not me, who should proof anything to you at this stage of the argument, since I am replying to your statements. However, to entertain your curiosity I should say- For us Christian there is no necessity to proof Gods existence, since as you say we chose to believe. And if you belief something there is no reason for proof. (However, in order for your faith to be reasonable you may choose to rationalize it, as it is done in Christianity to some extent). Secondly, as soon as we prove God, or his existence, it will nullify the purpose of our Christian walk and belief. Since in order for God to be God- all-powerful, ever-present, self-existent, who is beyond human understanding, there must be a gap in factual evidence. Otherwise God will cease to be God. Thirdly, Christianity has a great history, which proved itself. It has a great theology which is consistent with our beliefs. It is rational. Can you say it about your system of beliefs? Even if you can find some, I doubt that it would be sufficient. Next time before replying please organize your thoughts. There is no need to be impolite and compulsive, since this very fact works against you revealing your personality of incompetence and ignorance. And I dont think that you like to be viewed like that. I am sure, that you are a person who is trying hard to achieve everything you can in this life. Striving hard to find yourself in this big and mysterious world, called life. However, you must evaluate your life choices, rationalize your system of belief, question it, and scrutinize it to the point where you will be absolutely sure that it is the truth.

                Christ on the other hand needs no proof, since his life, his teaching and his followers and the church is in itself proof of its legitimacy. And you are right the day will come and you will understand, understand the truth. As for us, Christians we believe that we understand the truth already here on earth. And not because we are scared by the coming judgment which is to come. But because of great love of God for us. Love that came from heaven and died for us that we may live. We and you have hope because Jesus did not spear his life but died that we may live. You want to live? You what to succeed; you want to be happy, well Jesus is the answer.
                "Я осуждаю не слова, эти отборные и драгоценные сосуды, а то вино заблуждения, которое подносят нам в них пьяные учителя."

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                • Priestess
                  Участник с неподтвержденным email

                  • 17 November 2004
                  • 7350

                  #23
                  Сообщение от Deicide
                  I guess humor is not something that might be appreciated here.
                  A woman cannot satisfy a man ?...... Ow. That's sad actually.
                  It really is! It only means that this particular man can only be satisfied by another man. Gee, sometimes people can say realy strange things about spirituality...

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                  • Priestess
                    Участник с неподтвержденным email

                    • 17 November 2004
                    • 7350

                    #24
                    Сообщение от Deicide
                    Светочка... nothing is eternal, even you faith that ou are relying on so heavily. One day you will understand that god - is only something you want to believe in.
                    God is you = you are God. No more, no less. Deicide is right. You imagine God for yourself, and believe me, your imagination is different from your brothers and sisters in Christ, because they have their own. Everyone from them understands God differently.
                    In fact, you pray to yourself, you speak with yourself, and you put your hopes on yourself. You just think this is God. But in reality this is all YOU.

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                    • Metaxas
                      Участник с неподтвержденным email

                      • 18 November 2004
                      • 8253

                      #25
                      Сообщение от Светлана Золк.
                      Money cannot satisfy man,
                      Neither can education satisfy man,
                      Nor can pleasure satisfy man,
                      Nor can success satisfy man.
                      WHY ?
                      Any woman can satisfy a man. At least for several hours. However, not every man can satisfy a woman. Some people even say that no one can satisfy a woman... But what it is actually all about? Is it an appropriate theme for a religious forum?

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                      • Tanya
                        счастливая мама

                        • 20 November 2000
                        • 1611

                        #26
                        nobody is talking about physical.. sexual satisfaction here...
                        Ибо Ты возвеселил меня, Господи, творением Твоим: я восхищаюсь делами рук Твоих.
                        Как велики дела Твои, Господи! дивно глубоки помышления Твои!


                        Псалтирь 91:5-6

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                        • БАБАЙ
                          Ему расти, мне умаляться

                          • 13 December 2007
                          • 5322

                          #27
                          Without God, The purpose of man's existence, is unknown... he is not even being, but substance. sounds weird, but true.
                          мир вам от Господа Иисуса Христа

                          Существует достаточно света для тех, кто хочет видеть, и достаточно мрака для тех, кто не хочет.
                          (БЛЕЗ ПАСКАЛЬ)

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                          • Grape
                            Участник

                            • 21 December 2006
                            • 29

                            #28
                            I still think that all the things mentioned at the beginning of this discussion CAN satisfy us but to SOME extent.
                            There's time for everything in our life: for love and for work, for tears and laughter. When some elements are missing, life isn't 'full' and we feel anxious.

                            However, it's remarkable that a relationship with God CAN substitute for the lack of the other 'elements' of happiness while none of those elements can substitute for the lack of a relationship with God.

                            That's why I think faith is really key to being happy. Nevertheless, we shouldn't underestimate the role of food, friendship, success, luck or even money because these are the blessings that God gives us and to say we aren't satisfied with them would be the same as to say that we are not thankful.

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                            • dan b
                              Участник

                              • 19 February 2011
                              • 57

                              #29
                              Сообщение от БАБАЙ
                              Without God, The purpose of man's existence, is unknown... he is not even being, but substance. sounds weird, but true.
                              You are correct! Some people still don't realize this. Man is empty without God, purpose, ideals ect. Rich people commit suicide. It is because they have everything that can be attained on earth. But it is not enought.

                              Tell me please, How did you find this understanding?

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                              • Andy_asp
                                Ветеран

                                • 07 October 2008
                                • 5577

                                #30
                                Сообщение от Светлана Золк.
                                Money cannot satisfy man,
                                Neither can education satisfy man,
                                Nor can pleasure satisfy man,
                                Nor can success satisfy man.
                                WHY ?
                                Because man is only in the making (in process of formation)

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